Comments on: Lobbyists and PR flacks and communications gurus, oh my! http://blog.commoncore.org/2010/01/11/lobbyists-and-pr-flacks-and-communications-gurus-oh-my/ Promoting a full core curriculum. Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:01:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Eric http://blog.commoncore.org/2010/01/11/lobbyists-and-pr-flacks-and-communications-gurus-oh-my/#comment-13186 Eric Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:13:37 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=149#comment-13186 Speaking of Dell, I couldn't help but notice this add: http://content.dell.com/us/en/k-12/d/k12/21stCenturyLearning.aspx?dgc=DC&cid=51298&lid=1327093 which linked from here: http://scholasticadministrator.typepad.com/thisweekineducation/2010/01/rttt-half-of-states-post-applications-online.html Speaking of Dell, I couldn’t help but notice this add:

http://content.dell.com/us/en/k-12/d/k12/21stCenturyLearning.aspx?dgc=DC&cid=51298&lid=1327093

which linked from here:
http://scholasticadministrator.typepad.com/thisweekineducation/2010/01/rttt-half-of-states-post-applications-online.html

]]> By: Ed Jones http://blog.commoncore.org/2010/01/11/lobbyists-and-pr-flacks-and-communications-gurus-oh-my/#comment-12974 Ed Jones Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:02:48 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=149#comment-12974 Ben, I'm saying that criticism (personal criticism at that) does not suffice for leadership. Ben, I’m saying that criticism (personal criticism at that) does not suffice for leadership.

]]> By: Ben F http://blog.commoncore.org/2010/01/11/lobbyists-and-pr-flacks-and-communications-gurus-oh-my/#comment-12939 Ben F Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:25:05 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=149#comment-12939 Ed, Are you saying that P21 is NOT a lobbying group for tech companies? Ed,

Are you saying that P21 is NOT a lobbying group for tech companies?

]]> By: Ed Jones http://blog.commoncore.org/2010/01/11/lobbyists-and-pr-flacks-and-communications-gurus-oh-my/#comment-12795 Ed Jones Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:58:55 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=149#comment-12795 As said before, I come here as a friend of the ideas of Common Core. But if you're gonna shoot yourselves (and your mission) in the leg, why here's the ammo. Looking at Common Core's staff bios, one would expect to find those who have used a solid liberal education to achieve something in industry or war. Persons like former NEA Chair Dana Gioia who for years served as VP and helped General Foods develop and market affordable foods, who used his mother's love of poetry to inspire and inform others through his life. Or General David Petraeus, whose studies of History at West Point led him to a PhD in International Affairs from the Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton. And subsequently to solve the tidy little problem of the insurgency in Iraq. Common Core of course has that type of well and rounded learned persons at the helm, right? Like astronaut Julie Payette (BSEE) who plays piano, speaks five languages, and has sung with the Montreal Symphony and the Piacere Vocale in Switzerland, yes? Well, I'll leave it to Lynn and James (BS Philosophy, 2008) to critique their own bios. And perhaps to take the point that columns like the above are no road forward. If Common Core is to make progress, they need to not just criticize, but embrace positive action. They also need associates who by example can prove the value of <i>truly</i> broad education--including things like operations research and quantum uncertainty. <i>Not</i> just humanities as seen by humanities specialists. As said before, I come here as a friend of the ideas of Common Core. But if you’re gonna shoot yourselves (and your mission) in the leg, why here’s the ammo.

Looking at Common Core’s staff bios, one would expect to find those who have used a solid liberal education to achieve something in industry or war. Persons like former NEA Chair Dana Gioia who for years served as VP and helped General Foods develop and market affordable foods, who used his mother’s love of poetry to inspire and inform others through his life. Or General David Petraeus, whose studies of History at West Point led him to a PhD in International Affairs from the Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton. And subsequently to solve the tidy little problem of the insurgency in Iraq.

Common Core of course has that type of well and rounded learned persons at the helm, right? Like astronaut Julie Payette (BSEE) who plays piano, speaks five languages, and has sung with the Montreal Symphony and the Piacere Vocale in Switzerland, yes?

Well, I’ll leave it to Lynn and James (BS Philosophy, 2008) to critique their own bios. And perhaps to take the point that columns like the above are no road forward.

If Common Core is to make progress, they need to not just criticize, but embrace positive action. They also need associates who by example can prove the value of truly broad education–including things like operations research and quantum uncertainty. Not just humanities as seen by humanities specialists.

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