Comments on: The Partnership for 19th Century Skills http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/ Promoting a full core curriculum. Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:16:42 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kathy http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-21634 Kathy Fri, 13 Aug 2010 01:59:46 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-21634 Just wondering, didn't we have any skills in the 20th century? Just wondering, didn’t we have any skills in the 20th century?

]]> By: The Ups and Downs of 21st Century Skills | Smelly Knowledge http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-11210 The Ups and Downs of 21st Century Skills | Smelly Knowledge Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:01:36 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-11210 [...] approach can also tend to a romanticism of the past, such as Dr. Ravitch’s post on 19th Century Skills. While I appreciate Dr. Ravitch’s historical perspective–that many things we value and [...] [...] approach can also tend to a romanticism of the past, such as Dr. Ravitch’s post on 19th Century Skills. While I appreciate Dr. Ravitch’s historical perspective–that many things we value and [...]

]]> By: Patrick M. http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-10701 Patrick M. Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:50:44 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-10701 The willingness to see your own nations interests before all others (jingoism) Great list ... it's fascinating that the one negative comment brought up the word "chauvinism" - It is the chauvinism of the 'cult of the new' that Diane is so appropriately puncturing here. we shouldnt be so presumptive in thinking the 19th century cultural habits and aspirations were all wrong or out-of-date. The skills of the 21st century will find leverage via new technologies, but the underlying human cognitive skills, behaviors and habits required to be successful contributors as citizens and knowledge workers will be not a whit different from Diane's list. Look at it this way - if you had a choice between hiring a 22-year-old College graduate who did have the "19th century skills" vs one who only had "21st century skills" which would you pick? the 19th century list is more concrete and important for an individual contributor in the workplace. - - initiative, self-discipline, curiosity, honor (aka ethics), communication ... that and the other items are vital. The willingness to see your own nations interests before all others (jingoism)

Great list … it’s fascinating that the one negative comment brought up the word “chauvinism” – It is the chauvinism of the ‘cult of the new’ that Diane is so appropriately puncturing here. we shouldnt be so presumptive in thinking the 19th century cultural habits and aspirations were all wrong or out-of-date.

The skills of the 21st century will find leverage via new technologies, but the underlying human cognitive skills, behaviors and habits required to be successful contributors as citizens and knowledge workers will be not a whit different from Diane’s list.

Look at it this way – if you had a choice between hiring a 22-year-old College graduate who did have the “19th century skills” vs one who only had “21st century skills” which would you pick? the 19th century list is more concrete and important for an individual contributor in the workplace.
- – initiative, self-discipline, curiosity, honor (aka ethics), communication … that and the other items are vital.

]]> By: moto kurye http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-10429 moto kurye Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:35:24 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-10429 nice sharing thanks nice sharing thanks

]]> By: Scott Harding http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-9878 Scott Harding Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:40:09 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-9878 To Diane, Common Core, and others who've commented: a heartfelt thank you. This has helped me to communicate with my colleagues in engineering. Although we are "professionals" and ostensibly have attained some kind of lofty critical thinking skills, I fear we are but infants when it comes to understanding our place in the broader spectrum of humanity. We are probably at a crisis (and have been for some time). I think it can be traced to a de-emphasis on a liberal arts education. I have written somewhat (admittely awkwardly) about it at, eg, http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&gid=30219&discussionID=9093896&sik=1257345445970&trk=ug_qa_q&goback=%2Eana_30219_1257345445970_5_2 To Diane, Common Core, and others who’ve commented: a heartfelt thank you.

This has helped me to communicate with my colleagues in engineering. Although we are “professionals” and ostensibly have attained some kind of lofty critical thinking skills, I fear we are but infants when it comes to understanding our place in the broader spectrum of humanity. We are probably at a crisis (and have been for some time). I think it can be traced to a de-emphasis on a liberal arts education.

I have written somewhat (admittely awkwardly) about it at, eg,
http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&gid=30219&discussionID=9093896&sik=1257345445970&trk=ug_qa_q&goback=%2Eana_30219_1257345445970_5_2

]]> By: Mid-Riffs » Blog Archive » The Simpsons and Project 21C http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-8778 Mid-Riffs » Blog Archive » The Simpsons and Project 21C Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:38:52 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-8778 [...] have dominated our colleges of education since the early twentieth century.  I have elsewhere (http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88) suggested that the schools should emphasize such 19th century skills as love of learning, the [...] [...] have dominated our colleges of education since the early twentieth century.  I have elsewhere (http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88) suggested that the schools should emphasize such 19th century skills as love of learning, the [...]

]]> By: Trix http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-8506 Trix Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:30:59 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-8506 Excellent piece! Was MATH left out intentionally? Excellent piece!

Was MATH left out intentionally?

]]> By: Mid-Riffs » Blog Archive » Charter Schools and Merit Pay: Is Obama Off the Rails? http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-8150 Mid-Riffs » Blog Archive » Charter Schools and Merit Pay: Is Obama Off the Rails? Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:59:52 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-8150 [...] the bright side, I applaud Diane Ravitch’s announcement of the Partnership for 19th Century Skills. Riff [...] [...] the bright side, I applaud Diane Ravitch’s announcement of the Partnership for 19th Century Skills. Riff [...]

]]> By: Alan http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-8147 Alan Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:00:56 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-8147 @Tony Mcarthur (jingoism, chauvinism, etc): Good point. But remember: Baby.... Bathwater. @Tony Mcarthur (jingoism, chauvinism, etc):

Good point. But remember: Baby…. Bathwater.

]]> By: Michael Landry http://blog.commoncore.org/2009/07/06/the-partnership-for-19th-century-skills/#comment-7931 Michael Landry Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:50:31 +0000 http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=88#comment-7931 I first learned about so-called 21st century skills a week or so ago when a local school district wanted to spend more than $100 million dollars for a new campus designed to create an environment for delivery of 21st century skills (form follows funtion, I guess). Upon reading the list of 21st century skills, my first thought was that we need 19th century skills. A 19th century eighth grade graduate knew more, in my judgment, than many of the college students I teach. Coincidentally, today I learned of your Partnership. I'm with you on this one! I first learned about so-called 21st century skills a week or so ago when a local school district wanted to spend more than $100 million dollars for a new campus designed to create an environment for delivery of 21st century skills (form follows funtion, I guess). Upon reading the list of 21st century skills, my first thought was that we need 19th century skills. A 19th century eighth grade graduate knew more, in my judgment, than many of the college students I teach. Coincidentally, today I learned of your Partnership. I’m with you on this one!

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